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Are there catholic writings of popes, bishops or catholic church fathers that mention Anne the mother of Saint Mary or narratives from the Protoevangelium of James before its condemnation?

Did the ancient catholic church believe that Anne was mother of Saint Mary before the condemnation of the Protoevangelium of James? Some may say that the condemnation of the apocrypha does not mean that they did not believe Anne was mother of Saint Mary, because this could be an unwritten tradition of the church, but the question is if there are written ancient church sources that can prove that, they believed that Anne was mother of Saint Mary and that this idea did not come from the Protoevangelium of James, but from parallel unwritten tradition?

"condemned by Pope Innocent I in 405 and classified as apocryphal by the Gelasian Decree around AD 500, became a widely influential source for Mariology." - Gospel of James

How would condemned apocrypha become "influential source for Mariology"?

Thanks in advance.


In the East: Probably mentioning the Protevangelium of James

(c. 375 AD) Ephiphanius of Salamis - Panarion - against collyridians 8

Pdf page 641:

For the age-old error of forgetting the living God and worshiping his creatures will not get the better of me. (4) They served and worshiped the creature more than the creator,” and “were made fools.”14 If it is not his will that angels be worshiped, how much more the woman born of Ann,15 who was given to Ann by Joachim16 and granted to her father and mother by promise, after prayer and all diligence? She was surely not born other than normally, but of a man’s seed and a woman’s womb like everyone else. (5) For even though the story and traditions of Mary say that her father Joachim was told in the wilderness, “Your wife has conceived,”17 it was not because this had come about without conjugal intercourse or a man’s seed. The angel who was sent to him predicted the coming event, so that there would be no doubt. The thing had truly happened, had already been decreed by God, and had been promised to the righteous. 12 John 13:23. 13 Cf. Act. John 108–115. 14 Rom 1:25; 22. 15 Cf. Protevangelium of James 4.1–3. 16 Cf. Protevangelium of James 4.1–3. 17 Cf. Protevangelium of James 4.2.

https://ia800501.us.archive.org/18/items/EpiphaniusPanarionBksIIIII1/Epiphanius%20-%20_Panarion_%20-%20Bks%20II%20%26%20III%20-%201.pdf

The book Panarion:

It was written in Koine Greek beginning in 374 or 375, and issued about three years later,1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panarion

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  • Modern sources generally agree that the only source of the Dogma of Mary's Perpetual Virginity comes from this sole source. The more you research the history and development of Dogma, the more such contradictions and inconsistencies you will find. What you are asking is conceding much less doctrine - what I'm pointing out is that more Catholic Doctrine proposed on a greater level of assent also comes solely from this document. Commented Nov 30 at 13:34

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Are there Catholic writings of popes or bishops that mention Anne the mother of Saint Mary before the condemnation of Protoevangelium of James?

To my knowledge the answer is no.

Anne’s and Joachim’s names are not mentioned in the Bible, so the accounts of their lives come to us extra-canonically. Their names are referenced in an apocryphal, early Christian text known as the Protoevangelium of James. The Protoevangelium was not included in the canon of Scripture because its recorded accounts seem unrealistic and fantastical. For example, one of its stories describes the maiming of a midwife who disbelieves the perpetual virginity of Mary. While some of its stories are dismissed, the Protoevangelium is referenced as a legitimate source text for at least two things: the names of Joachim and Anne and the Presentation of Mary in the Temple. So it can’t be all bad then!

St. Anne is mentioned fifteen times in the Protoevangelium of James. The principal references relate to the conception of Mary—how Anne and Joachim were barren, how both prayed for a child, and then God gave them Mary. The Protoevangelium does not provide any other details of Joachim’s and Anne’s life, nor does it record when they died. - What do we Know about St. Anne

Just because Pope Innocent I condemned the Protoevangelium of James as not being part of the Church’s canonical list of books inspired by God to be in it’s Biblical Canon and designating it to the list of Apocryphal Books, does not mean that there are not some truths within it’s lines that are from the very foundations of the Church. This is not to say St. Anne and St. Joachim's names had not been part of an existing oral tradition. “Just because it is uncanonical doesn’t mean everything in it is false.” - (Msgr. Daniel Trapp).

It is clear that the Protoevangelium of James dates back to the years 120-150 A.D. which is outside the the domain of Public Revelation, which ended with the death of the last Apostle, St. John in the year +/- 101 A.D.

Nevertheless the Protoevangelium of James never lost it’s influence in the Churches of the East, at an epoch where both East and West were still united in one faith. The Church in the East never ceased in this tradition that St. Anne was the mother of Mary.

Scholars generally accept that the Gospel of James was originally composed in Greek. Over 100 Greek manuscripts have survived, and translations were made into Syriac, Ethiopic, Sahidic Coptic, Georgian, Old Church Slavonic, Armenian, Arabic, and presumably Latin, given that it was apparently known to the compiler of the Gelasian Decree. The oldest is Papyrus Bodmer 5 from the fourth or possibly third century, discovered in 1952 and now in the Bodmer Library, Geneva, while the fullest is a 10th-century Greek codex in the Bibliothèque Nationale, Paris.

The Gospel of James was a widely influential source for Christian doctrine regarding Mary. According to Bernhard Lohse, it is the earliest assertion of her perpetual virginity, meaning her virginity not just prior to the birth of Jesus, but during the birth and afterwards. Its explanation of the gospels' "brothers of Jesus" (the adelphoi) as the offspring of Joseph by an earlier marriage remains the position of the Eastern church. Richard Bauckham noted that "It is possible that the brothers of Jesus were correctly remembered not to have been sons of Mary and that this made possible the development of the idea of Mary's perpetual virginity as a result. Good historical tradition certainly was still available in the early second century, even if mixed with much legendary material." In the West, influential theologian Jerome asserted that Joseph himself had been a perpetual virgin, and that the adelphoi were cousins of the Lord. Jerome's opposition to the Protevangelium led to a diminished influence and circulation in the western, Latin church. It was condemned by Pope Innocent I in 405 and rejected by the Gelasian Decree around 500. It was completely unknown in the West, and it was taken over by the widely read Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew, which popularized most of its stories. - Protoevangelium of James

It is thanks to this document that the Church celebrates the Feast of the Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Temple on November 21st each year. The feast of the Presentation of Mary originated as a result of the dedication of the New Church of the Theotokos, built in 543 by the Byzantines under Emperor Justinian I near the site of the ruined Temple in Jerusalem. For Wikipedia to state that the Protoevangelium ofJames was “completely unknown in the West, and it was taken over by the widely read Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew, which popularized most of its stories,” is hard to believe and also mentions the name of Anne.

One of the main reasons why this book was condemned, lies in the fact that it was ascribed to the Apostle St. James which was clearly not the case.

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    Thank you again Ken. Do you know when the church starts to mention Anne in the catholic church - in the west? If we assume that they did not mentioned Anne before the condemnation of the Protoevangelium of James, when exactly do we get the first writings of mentioning Anne? Thank you in advance. Commented Dec 1 at 9:35
  • We can not say they did not mention the name of Anne. We simply do not have any records. Commented Dec 1 at 13:52
  • Thank you. I understand, but do you know when exactly do we have the first records of written evidence about Anne in the Western church? Commented Dec 1 at 15:32
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OP: Are there catholic writings of popes, bishops or catholic church fathers that mention Anne the mother of Saint Mary or narratives from the Protoevangelium of James before its condemnation?

In addition to the Protoevangelium of James, there are two other early references to Anna, the mother of Mary.

The blessed and glorious ever-virgin Mary, sprung from the royal stock and family of David, born in the city of Nazareth, was brought up at Jerusalem in the temple of the Lord. Her father was named Joachim, and her mother Anna. The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary Chapter 1

And at the age of twenty he took to wife Anna, the daughter of Achar, of his own tribe, that is, of the tribe of Judah, of the family of David. The Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew Chapter 1

This book dates to about 600.

John of Damascus writes about Anna, the mother of Mary.

Joachim then2448 took to wife that revered and praiseworthy woman, Anna. But just as the earlier Anna2449, who was barren, bore Samuel by prayer and by promise, so also this Anna by supplication and promise from God bare the Mother of God in order that she might not even in this be behind the matrons of fame2450. An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith Book IV Chapter XIV

While the Catholic Church rejected the sources to the references about the mother of Mary, the Orthodox Church embraced them (at least this reference regarding Anna.

So, there are a couple of other references to Anne, the mother of Mary.

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  • Thank you very much, this is helpful. I read a little of The Gospel of the Nativity of Mary and it says - "for the Scripture said, Cursed is every one who has not begot a male or a female in Israel." newadvent.org/fathers/0849.htm I could not find this in the scripture. Commented Dec 1 at 18:32
  • It is good to know about these apocryphal writings, regarding the subject, but do you know, some writings that were from the inside of the church at that time, something that is not apocrypha? The other problem that could occur is that there could be false attributions as is mentioned about the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew & Jerome. Commented Dec 1 at 18:33

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