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Another call to war by The Economist?
Aren't you guys even a little ashamed of yourselves?
Where is the outrage in the Muslim world that we saw after the Mohammed cartoons? I suppose for them a few thousand dead children don't matter. The important thing is not to offend the prophet.
" The important thing is not to offend the prophet."
That is the only important thing; and hating America; and Israel; and the West at large; and all infidels...
No, they are not.
"If this isn’t a red line, what is?"
It is not the right hue of red for any kind of intervention on anybody's side by the US - and will never be the right hue, either... Get used to it.
No one is stopping anyone else, though, from getting involved in Syria, you know. So, go ahead UK, Euroland, and all those who want the US to get involved in this intractable tribal bloodletting; and get blamed for all that ails that miserable wretched piece of real estate, a.k.a. the Middle East. We certainly will not stop anyone from intervening in Syria. So, where is France, the UK, and all the other little wannabe interventionists who were so eager to intervene in Libya? Where, indeed?...
To find the criminal, you always look for the person who benefits the most. Connect The Dots, as they say.
Assad: He is clearly winning the war. There is absolutely 0 reason for him to use chemical weapons at this stage. 4 months ago, maybe. Right now? Not a chance.
United States: Wants Assad dead no matter what(reason 1). Needs a new war somewhere to throw all the newly minted bombs(reason 2). Needs a diversion as pet generals in Egypt murder demonstrators left and right(reason 3).
Now, who did it?
The only way the Russians would admit Bashar al Assad was using chemical weapons in Syria,
is if a chemical bomb landed in the UN hotel and killed the UN Chemical Weapons Inspector as he was sleeping in his bed along with 80 other guests and staff with acute respiratory paralysis.
And even then Russia would abstain rather than vote to condemn their good ally Syria on the UN Resolution.
So as far as UN Diplomacy is concerned, nothing happened yesterday in Damascus.
I've never understood the focus on chemical weapons. Assad can shoot, shell, or bomb civilians all he wants. Chemical weapons, though? Of course we can't allow that. Those things are dangerous!
The entire notion of a "red line" was farcical. "You better not use chemical weapons, or I'll be forced to... reconsider my options!"
This is becoming farcical.
The rebels (probably with the help of their international backers) staged this... and everybody with an IQ of about 10 or above knows it.
More questions than answers:
1) Were chemical weapons used? Probably.
2) Who used them? Much speculation, NO evidence.
3) Should this result in intervention? Depends on the confirmation of #1, and the identification of the user. See #2.
4) Who should intervene?
5) On whose behalf should the intervention be done?
6) What precisely is the self-interest served by those who would intervene?
7) What is the self-interest served by those calling for intervention by some nation or nations other than themselves?
As a U.S. citizen, I see nothing good—and much bad—coming from intervention by my country in the absence of convincing answers to the first two questions. Should it be established—and it has not been yet—that Assad used chemical weapons against Syrian people, then the key question becomes finding military aid recipients who will not behave as badly as Assad.
And finally, if the prior questions are resolved to the satisfaction of thinking individuals, then why should it be the U.S. that intervenes, rather than, say, the Swedes, Danes, Germans, Portuguese and Peruvians? What of a mission of liberation (of whom? for whom?) by the U.K., together with Venezuela and Ecuador, assisted by China and Brazil?
The U.S. will be excoriated for getting [more] involved, and blamed equally for not trying to sort out yet another civil war with more than two sides.
@ Milovan/Joe (further below):
ON ITALY'S DECLINING INTERNATIONAL ROLE
Look, I understand your graspable frustration with Italy's performance. Nobody is particularly happy about it.
It doesn't go unnoticed in international circles that the German Bundesbank and three smaller northern European central banks are the last boulders between Italy and the cliff, extending a 400 billion lifeline to the Italian central bank via the ECB. That increases Germany's weight, not Italy's, and is one of the reasons why Merkel is honored in the rose garden and not Monti, Letta or Napolitano.
The key to restoring your battered prestige is domestic reform.
Nobody expects you to play in the league of the three small European great powers (UK/France/Germany) anymore, but it would be good if you could stop being a major European trouble child.
Recommended reading: Richard Haass (President, Council on Foreign Relations), Foreign Policy Begins at Home: The Case for Putting America's House in Order (2013). I'm sure the book's tenets apply to Italy, as well.
What, US Brits and France trying to implicate "Assad regime" for chemical attacks again? After recent months of successful military campaign by SOVERIGN SYRIAN ARMY against Muslim jihadists and clueless revolutionless revolutionaries ? Right at the time UN inspectors reached Syria? Just happens to gas a bunch of innocent civilians while all rebels seems magically escaped unscathed?
Forget that bridge I'm going to sell to you in Brooklyn. I've got something even BETTER this time. I've got a you who would actually believe all these crap to sell to you too! I've also got a me who believes he can sell such a you to you to sell to you too! For a limited time only, buy both and you will receive a bonus of pure idiocy and tinfoilhatedness free of charge! and remember folks, this is a limited time offer and only available while supplies last or until that stench of deceit and delusion meant for the public were finally all breathed in by those delusion poisoned delusionists themselves~
Why oh why should we intervene? If we do, we help one side do more killing of the other with better weapons and in so doing we are helping - as this magazine has pointed out - groups who are even more opposed to the West than Assad.
Think about it: intervention means giving better weapons to the various rebel groups which include all sorts of extremists. How is that good? Why is ratcheting up the weaponry the proper response to an atrocity? This magazine has discussed how rebel groups are in many areas dominated by extremists, meaning extreme for Islamists, and that rebel actions have been hurt by infighting, meaning not political jockeying but actual armed fighting. So all the new, better weapons go to whom? And they're used against whom? Other rebels? Other civilians? Alawites instead of Sunni?
And when we put better weapons in Syria, why wouldn't the Iranians and the Russians do the same? The Russians believe the region is better off with Assad than the Sunni radicals - and they may be right but who knows? The Iranians need Assad. So by arming rebel groups, whether they hate us or not, whether they turn on each other or not, maybe we just add fuel to a war that becomes regional and even more deadly.
"[Germany] drinks excessive amounts of beer, but cannot even develop a brand of exportable quality around the world"
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This comment about sums up your "expertise" in international affairs. LOL
It's all mere resentment isn't it? Italy's in decline, you are struggling – and you need a scapegoat for both. Where have I seen this movie before?
As far as beers go, I do think German brands don't need any additional advertising (Paulaner, Erdinger, Löwenbräu, anybody?). And now off for a few good beers. (In Belgium, incidentally.)
What credible evidence indicates "most of the Syrians" support the government of Assad?
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To be frank, I think any accurate polling of opinions/attitudes would be suspect or flawed.
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Just considering the prevalence of conflict/hostilities, the authoritarian nature of the Assad government, and likely intimidation some sectors of the populace may fear from various rebel groups (like would someone give a straight answer with jihadis running around in the neighborhood?).
Exactly how is the use of nerve gas, in Syria, more shocking than the use of white phosphorus in Gaza?
Why is killing by chemical weapons more shocking than being blown in half by a tank shell, or being disintegrated by a missile from a helicopter gunship, or being decapitated by a cluster bomb or shot in the head by an Uzi machine gun?
Mr Hague's apparent shock is extraordinary when he appeared calm and collected after 300 children under the age of 16 were killed by the IDF in Gaza over Christmas 2008.
And if I recall correctly, it was William Hague who subsequently was instrumental in changing the law to allow certain individuals easier entry into Britain notwithstanding allegations against them of war crimes. How shocking is that?
It Is A Rebel Ploy To Drag the West into a War..America, please Avoid getting into this mess.Themton
I think is not fair when the 5 permanent members of UN are controlling the rolling of the world . We should think again something is wrong with this system
Italy does not "live off the US's back". Neither does the UK nor does France.
If you have gripes with the Germans, take it up with them, but you might want to acknowledge that many countries around the world would be uneasy with increasing German militarism.
Otherwise, yours is an emotional, ideological response that does not respond to the facts any more.
Have you ever studied Geography?
Syria is in Asia, not Europe.
It is bordered however by two very long-term American allies, Israel and Turkey.
If however the US intends on treating its local allies in a cavalier fashion, then many other countries around the world will take notice.
Syria means the Holy Land - and the Holy Land is the crossroads of the world and Geopolitics. Its strategic importance cannot be overstated (unlike, say, Vietnam or Afghanistan), which means that the entire world is watching - and not disinterestedly.